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:mastodon: charlie@stna:~$Uma dúvida sobre o <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> ❔ Somente as conversas 1:1 são criptografadas ou é preciso alguma configuração adicional, para funcionar a criptografia nas salas ?

KyrylysRayadisima porque creo que en los albores de internet me hice una cuenta <a href="https://frikiverse.zone/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> asociada a otro correo que ya no uso. Y no recuerdo en qué instancia y me gustaría saber si la puedo encontrar de alguna forma. Me suena que estuve trasteando pidgin y también otro programa para chatear cuando los juegos online no traían chat o era una fustaña. Pero como digo lo tengo muy difuso. Y es probable que mi perfil estuviera en modo solo para amigos; pero si la cuenta sigue existiendo me gustaría recuperarla.

GeeklandComunicación Libre, Segura y Descentralizada <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/talleres_cursos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#talleres_cursos</a> #<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fediverso" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverso</a> #<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/gnu_linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#gnu_linux</a> #<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/talleres" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#talleres</a> #<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://softlibre.com.ar/blog/2025/06/22/comunicacion-libre-segura-y-descentralizada/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://softlibre.com.ar/blog/2025/06/22/comunicacion-libre-segura-y-descentralizada/</a>

rikylinux<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gnu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gnu</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/talleres" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#talleres</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> Se agradece la difusión 📣 <a href="https://softlibre.com.ar/blog/2025/06/22/comunicacion-libre-segura-y-descentralizada/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://softlibre.com.ar/blog/2025/06/22/comunicacion-libre-segura-y-descentralizada/</a>

Debacle<a href="https://mastodon.social/@derekmorr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@derekmorr</a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/@Linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Linux</a>Btw. the OP especially mentioned <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/massSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#massSurveillance</a>. Federated services, such as <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>, are relatively well protected against this specific danger. While it is easy to control one server, it is relatively hard to takeover all, even for state level actors.Reminder to <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> server administrators: Please use port 443 for direct TLS c2s, not e.g. 5223. It is good for both <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a> and service availability!(But stay with 5222 for STARTTLS c2s. Better for old clients.)

Debacle<a href="https://mastodon.social/@derekmorr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@derekmorr</a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/@Linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Linux</a>The original post is not about "<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#security</a>" (whatever that means without context) or <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a>, but about alternatives to US services.When it comes to <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#digitalSovereignty</a>, Signal is not an option. It runs and depends on the Amazon cloud. DJT can ask Jeff B. to shutdown Signal, when he feels like it.<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>/<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> is just fine. In comparison to Signal, it is much easier to protect <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a> by maintaining multiple, anonymous accounts for different activities.

Debacle<a href="https://mastodon.au/@Linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Linux</a>Fortunately, we have a standard for federated chat: <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>, also known as <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>. It exists since 1999 and works so well, that it is even used — under the hood and not in a federated way — by Whatsapp, Google FCM, Zoom and many more.<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#federation</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#digitalSovereignty</a>

🌈 Lascapi ⁂The importance of open standard federation for chat<a href="https://element.io/blog/the-importance-of-open-standard-federation-for-chat/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://element.io/blog/the-importance-of-open-standard-federation-for-chat/</a> <a href="https://app.flus.fr/links/1835375226840006697" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://app.flus.fr/links/1835375226840006697</a>> "Matrix goes far beyond typical SMTP email or XMPP style federation: conversations are replicated over the participating servers ... all communication is multilateral." <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#matrix</a>

GeeklandIntroducción a XMPP - Capítulo 3 - Grupos <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mensajeria" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mensajeria</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/privacidad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacidad</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/grupos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#grupos</a> <a href="https://jdrm.info/introduccion-a-xmpp-capitulo-3-grupos.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://jdrm.info/introduccion-a-xmpp-capitulo-3-grupos.html</a>

Axel :xmpp: :debian: :tux:Da <a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/tags/monocleschat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monocleschat</a> kurzzeitig kostenlos im Play Store angeboten wird, habe ich mal schnell eine Mini-Einführung aufgezeichnet. Falls ihr also Menschen per monocles zu <a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> bringen wollt und diese ein kleines Hilfevideo benötigen, hilft es vielleicht: <a href="https://clip.place/w/qKLU4hNHYSpQj3kAEnWEDZ" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://clip.place/w/qKLU4hNHYSpQj3kAEnWEDZ</a>Vielen Dank <a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@monocles</a> für die Play Store Aktion

Debacle<a href="https://social.cologne/@ATROXUS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ATROXUS</a> Schade, daß <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NextcloudTalk</a> nicht <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>-kompatibel ist. <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/JSXC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JSXC</a>, der <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>-Client für <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nextcloud</a> ist leider schon lange im Zustand der <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Kryokonservierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kryokonservierung</a>. So vielversprechend, so abandoned 😞

Menel :xmpp:<a href="https://social.mdosch.de/martin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@martin@social.mdosch.de</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/users/qwertziop" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@qwertziop@chaos.social</a> We have a very incomplete List of XMPP enabled fediverse instances <a href="https://codeberg.org/joinjabber/website/issues/105" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/joinjabber/website/issues/105</a> <a href="https://snikket.de/social?t=xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://snikket.de/social?t=mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>

Martin<a href="https://chaos.social/users/qwertziop" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@qwertziop@chaos.social</a> Ich glaube ein <a href="https://social.mdosch.de?t=xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> server fällt im Vergleich zu dem Ressourcenverbrauch von z.B. <a href="https://social.mdosch.de?t=mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> gar nicht auf. 😂

GxnxsBoas, hai pouco decidínme por empregar <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> e esta semana apunteime en <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/suChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#suChat</a> e instalei no android <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/monocleschat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monocleschat</a> ( <a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@monocles</a> ).Hoxe estou intentando investigar sobre pasarelas (aka transport aka bridges) a <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatsApp</a> , <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Telegram</a> , <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a> ou <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matrix</a> . Alguén podería dicirme se é posible para alguén cun nivel baixo-medio en informática? Cómo podería facer?

JuanTurns out <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> + <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IRC</a> transport + Conversations (Andoid XMPP client) is an amazing experience on mobile. Besides, having the transport to keep persistence of the IRC channels works as a bouncer for free.Not sure if I can say "the best" because I don't know many IRC clients on Andoid, but I'm very happy how it all works.

Andrey RysI still remember times when <a href="https://izutsumi.eu/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> was highly criticized for being an XML based protocol, too complex, when compared to plain <a href="https://izutsumi.eu/tags/irc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#irc</a> where a human being could just connect & chat with Telnet.Looking at all that I still wonder how modern web turned into a giant clusterfuck and why we allowed all this complexity to creep in

Martin<a href="https://fedifreu.de/users/cryptgoat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cryptgoat@fedifreu.de</a> Ja, aber das ist trotzdem nur ein Teil des <a href="https://social.mdosch.de?t=xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> Netzwerks. Das was du gerne hättest ist in eine Richtung schon möglich, du kannst deine Telefonnummer ins <a href="https://social.mdosch.de?t=quicksy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quicksy</a> registry eintragen lassen und dann von quicksy Nutzern gefunden werden: <a href="https://quicksy.im/#get-listed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://quicksy.im/#get-listed</a> In die andere Richtung hilft halt nur ausprobieren ob +49xxxxxxxxxx@quicksy.im existiert, keine Ahnung ob es einen client gibt, der das Adressbuch ausliest und automatisch probt.

StefanOb man Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) haben möchte oder nicht, hängt sehr stark vom Anwendungsfall ab. Ich stelle mir beispielsweise E-Mail-Verschlüsselung mit PFS sehr unschön vor. Besonders dann, wenn auch noch mehrere Personen Zugriff auf das Postfach haben. Wie stellt ihr euch denn die Umsetzung von einer E2EE mit PFS vor, wenn man ein E-Mail-Postfach hat, auf dem 3 Personen zugreifen können? <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> kann beispielsweise mit und ohne PFS verwendet werden. Im Client <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a> kann man auch pro Account seinen bevorzugte Verschlüsselungsmethode verwenden. Finde ich super. Aber mal ganz abgesehen,... wir sprechen bei <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=openpgp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenPGP</a> ( <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=gnupg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GnuPG</a> ) von einem offenen Standard und Freier Software. Wenn man dann Dinge hört wie "muss verschwinden" oder "nicht verwenden" finde ich dies sehr unhöflich gegenüber denen Menschen, die sich versuchen dafür einzusetzen. Solche Aussagen fördern kein Stück die Verwendung von E2EE, ganz im Gegenteil! CC: <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/users/a4phd8v3unh57vat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fasnix@iceshrimp.de</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/users/Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Tutanota@mastodon.social</a> <a href="https://social.mailbox.org/users/mailbox_org" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mailbox_org@social.mailbox.org</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/users/delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta@chaos.social</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/users/lennybacon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lennybacon@infosec.exchange</a>

Deus Figendi.jwd<a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@debacle</a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/@cryptgoat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cryptgoat</a> > Bei <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a>/<a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> ist das Hauptproblem im Moment, daß es keinen guten Windows client gibt. Was ist mit Miranda NG? Als ich Windows benutzte mochte ich Miranda IM immer sehr gerne und laut Wikipedia kann es: - Windows - MUC - OMEMOAußerdem hab ich gerade gelesen dass Jitsi Desktop (Java-Anwendung) ein XMPP-Client sei, ich glaube den probiere ich mal aus.

PositivDenken 🤯<a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@debacle</a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/@cryptgoat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cryptgoat</a> „<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> leidet seit Jahren darunter, dass kein Client wie der andere funktioniert. So hat es zig Jahre gebraucht bis <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> in den wichtigsten Clients vertreten war und dann stolperte man auch noch lange danach über die unterschiedlichen Implementierungen und Defaults.“Schlimm. Ist das immer noch so? Egal. Hauptsache ich bekomme Klicks für meinen shitpost. Hab ich selber jemals was beigetragen zu dem Projekt? Nö, natürlich nicht. Ich red ja lieber dumm daher.

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