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Christian Quest 🌍

@nitot @bortzmeyer

C'est pas le code le plus ancien qui pose le plus de problèmes... il était optimisé pour fonctionner correctement avec des ressources bien moindres qu'aujourd'hui ;)

Le sujet #bloatware ne me semble en effet pas assez étudié. On a favorisé l'écriture rapide de code, toujours plus de code, donc la quantité au détriment de la qualité.

Perte aussi de connaissance du fonctionnement des machines (et couches basses OS) à cause de couches d'abstraction qui s'empilent...

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@GabeMoralesVR Personally, I think using #discord should disqualify one for work in #IT just like a recent conviction for #DUI disqualifies one for driving a school bus.

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)And yes, whoever uses #discord for #documentation and #versioning instead of a goddam #git [doesn't have to be @github@infosec.exchange / #GitHub or @gitlab@mastodon.social / #GitLab or @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de / #Codeberg or even @gitea@social.gitea.io / #Gitea - just use any `git` and write down your documentation in a useable format like #Markdown or goddamn ASCII plain text *FFS*] should be banned for life from #coding, working in #IT or contribute to #FLOSS. - Because it's *literally worse* than people shitting *"#Ai" #Slop* all over the place cuz that can be *fixed* faster and easier by *backrolling said commits* and *banning the offender*! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ehLMlVTRJM&t=992 #AIslop #Enshittification
#bloatware#enshittified#informationblackhole
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

We have @EUCommission [rightfully!] crack down on #cars and their #emissions by demanding ever lower #FleetEmissions and #FuelConsumption numbers but still accept #Bloatware like shitty #WebApps and #Windows11 to demand so much #WastefulComputing that it's painful.

  • Margaret Hammond and Grace Hopper must be rotating in their graves, pointing out how they got people on the moon with less storage than the SPD-ROM on a RAM stick and how their programming language still runs #TradFinance like a clockwork respectably, but somehow sending text messages is too much for a machine that costs €499 yet has more computational power than all the machines they worked on combined.

#WastefulComputing like all those phat & enshittified messengers should be illegal.

  • Espechally since they have 0 reason to be that resource intensive, even if we believe some of their security-focussed marketing lies.
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)For those who don't know the [size of the problem]( https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862595629371002): In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz. - This thing ran #WindowsXP and #NeedForSpeedMostWanted just fine. - Nowadays it would crash trying to open #Slack even on a minimalist #Linux distro like @bunsenlabs@linuxrocks.online in @dillo@fosstodon.org, a lightweight browser ... And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #Telegram, #Signal, #WhatApp, #WeChat, #QQ and #LineMessenger *at the same time on their machine*, and you can imagine that this will make entry-level desktops already scream harder than if someone were to loop the *Lost Coast benchmark* on them... - The #bloat of modern #WebApps is just the *socially accepted equivalent* to #Cryptojacking desktops and driving some [*phat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humvee) #SuperUselessVehicle just to get less than a kg of groceries at a walking distance supermarket. Everywhere else we'd not accept such a #bloatware IRL. - So why should we accept #obscene|ly #WastefulComputing*?
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

For those who don't know the size of the problem:

In 2006 I bought a new [entry level] Computer with 256 MB of RAM and a single-core P4 Celeron with 2,8 GHz.

And now imagine that some folks have to use #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #Telegram, #Signal, #WhatApp, #WeChat, #QQ and #LineMessenger at the same time on their machine, and you can imagine that this will make entry-level desktops already scream harder than if someone were to loop the Lost Coast benchmark on them...

Everywhere else we'd not accept such a #bloatware IRL.

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps. My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal [¹](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036), #Telegram, #Discord [²](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114865723904157014), #WhatsApp [³](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114873895410403238), #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, etc. aside: - *WHY* is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite? - *WHY* does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU they can?? This problem ain't new and *already got [solved for corporate social media](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862619013462466) ages ago!* (Not to mention actually good messengers!) - And no, [bridges](https://toots.ch/@dalai/114862754556459439) *[don't](https://swecyb.com/@troed/114862774972645542) count*! - I mean `API 0` - [style](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685423773959519) access because obviously [none of the platforms](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685414638522984) will *allow, endorse or support such an endeavour* and [*actively fight the developers and users*](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685441496803574) ! So yeah, consider this a call for a @gajim@fosstodon.org / #Gajim or @pidgin@fosstodon.org / #Pidgin *for garbage platforms!* - Cuz back in the day we had *way worse messengers* yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single *"phat" client*! - Can we please get that back? #api0 #Enshittification
#Obscene#wastefulcomputing
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@domi @foone Sadly, #TechLiteracy is in decline and #consoomers get groomed into accepting #bloatware!

infosec.space/@kkarhan/1148625

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps. My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal [¹](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036), #Telegram, #Discord [²](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114865723904157014), #WhatsApp [³](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114873895410403238), #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, etc. aside: - *WHY* is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite? - *WHY* does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU they can?? This problem ain't new and *already got [solved for corporate social media](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862619013462466) ages ago!* (Not to mention actually good messengers!) - And no, [bridges](https://toots.ch/@dalai/114862754556459439) *[don't](https://swecyb.com/@troed/114862774972645542) count*! - I mean `API 0` - [style](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685423773959519) access because obviously [none of the platforms](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685414638522984) will *allow, endorse or support such an endeavour* and [*actively fight the developers and users*](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685441496803574) ! So yeah, consider this a call for a @gajim@fosstodon.org / #Gajim or @pidgin@fosstodon.org / #Pidgin *for garbage platforms!* - Cuz back in the day we had *way worse messengers* yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single *"phat" client*! - Can we please get that back? #api0 #Enshittification
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

Nobody: "How much bullshit can we shove into our website?"

#deel: YES!

And that's just the crap that #uBlockOrigin and #NoScript caught:

deel.com
api.deel.com
app.deel.com
amazonaws.com
a569f72b706584c51b5f33f0e47ccd30-e12968bbf00b014c.elb.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com
wiki.deel.network
braze.com
sdk.iad-06.braze.com
cal.com
app.cal.com
calendly.com
assets.calendly.com
chilipiper.com
js.chilipiper.com
com.cdn.cloudflare.net
api.deel.com.cdn.cloudflare.net
api.deel.com
d20qeu5vw8i5t2.cloudfront.net
cdn.zapier.com
d3kz3mviooatoq.cloudfront.net
avatars.slack-edge.com
deel.network
wiki.deel.network
deel.tools
openreplay-new.deel.tools
google.com
apis.google.com
www.google.com
googletagmanager.com
www.googletagmanager.com
gstatic.com
fonts.gstatic.com
www.gstatic.com
k8s-openrepl-awsalbin-ed4c403a34-602701419.eu-west-1.elb.amazonaws.com
openreplay-new.deel.tools
letsdeel.com
media.letsdeel.com
s3.amazonaws.com
sammylabs.com
api.sammylabs.com
sentry.io
o265775.ingest.sentry.io
slack-edge.com
avatars.slack-edge.com
stripe.com
js.stripe.com
m.stripe.com
q.stripe.com
stripe.network
m.stripe.network
stripecdn.map.fastly.net
m.stripe.network
zapier.com
cdn.zapier.com
 …deel.com
…braze.com
…cal.com
…calendly.com
…chilipiper.com
…deel.network
…deel.tools
…google.com
…googletagmanager.com
…gstatic.com
…s3.amazonaws.com
…sammylabs.com
…stripe.com
…stripe.network
…zapier.com

Seriously, I get that not everyone is able to do #accessible and #performant #forms and #Websites and that #JavaScript is trendy and hip.

  • But this seriously isn't funny anymore, but insulting!
#Enshittification#Bloatware#WebDev
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ltning

For any #MTCP, #DOS and #Retrocomputing nerds out there who are also running httpserv and want pretty graphs, poke me for a recipe for a hideosly bloated #logstash configuration to ingest the UDP logs.

I feed it to #Graylog which stores the data in #Opensearch - a pipeline that combined (and this is accurate) needs, conservatively, 4096 times as much RAM as the floppy museum itself (8MB).

And while looking at this when making this screenshot: I wonder why someone would hit http//floppy.museum with a Referer-header indicating they come from a salesforce-dot-com address? http-colon-slashslash-136.146.46.127 (about halfway down the list).

#msdos#bloatware#theremustbeabetterway
Felix Palmen :freebsd: :c64:

#Rooting a new #Xiaomi device is getting totally ridiculous these days.

I already jumped through the hoop to "request bootloader unlock permission" in one of Xiaomi's #bloatware apps at **EXACTLY** midnight beijing time, at least this worked. Now the second step would be to actually unlock the boot loader. On #FreeBSD, I can't use Xiaomi's unlocker tool (but I guess that's actually a good thing), so I found some python script that also works (after a bit of fiddling with it, patching shebang and removing some nonsense), and see what it tells me now.

Xiaomi, you used to be cool, a long time ago... 🙄

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