@JustinDerrick don't use online banking and never have honest answers on security questions!
#Funfact: This would not have been possible if their bank complied with #PSD2, which demands active, on-demand #2FA!
@JustinDerrick don't use online banking and never have honest answers on security questions!
#Funfact: This would not have been possible if their bank complied with #PSD2, which demands active, on-demand #2FA!
@midtsveen how about never unless @Liberapay@mastodon.xyzgets forced under threat of hans for violating #PSD2 to implement it 'at gunpoint' socto speak...?
@hisold My bank stopped issuing #girocard cards with #magstrip 10+ years ago as magstrip was phased out and #NFC was phased in as well as #PSD1 being introduced.
That's the main push factor: Alongside lower processing fees and faster processing, the Chip+PIN & #NFC systems actually request a blockage of the amount and will automatically decline without incuring fees if the balance / limit is below that amount - sometimes even before the PIN has been entered (it'll just not show it until the PIN is entered so fraudsters can't just abuse this as a means to check balance.
It's also insightful because #fraud would be way more rampant if the card issuer, payment processor and card system operator [i.e. AMEX, VISA, MasterCard] didn't all run their own AFE [Anti-Fraud Engine] each automatically assessing risks within less than a second for every transaction.
But that's just some cold OSINT based off #TechSupport and peeking behind the curtains professionally...
Rest assured if you have a CC you can be as certain that someone tried to abuse it as I'm certain my bank blocked fraudulent money orders against my account because of AFEs working - it's just > 99% of all fraud attempts get blocked instantly and merchants rate-limited or kicked off the system when they do something suspicious.
So yeah, that "#magstrip" may be just lacquer but unless it's specifically advertised otherwise only holds the CC & CVV as well as service codes [i.e. chip+pin only] to tell the terminal "Don't accept magstrip, mandate Chip+PIN"]...
Only underdeveloped countries like the #US still use #Magstrips and #credit and not Chip+PIN & #debit!
@katrinakatrinka @digyoursoul @molly0xfff granted, compared to #CustomerProtection and #Regulations in the #EU, #finance inctue #USA is a shitshow.
In Germany, #finanzguru is e.g. a very popular proprietary product that is mostly an app.
Apparently they got their own #PSD2 respectively (as I learned) #XS2A API (access to account API).
The thing is you need to get approved to use that, so for a customer, you cannot easily get access without a third-party or what?
@Xavier Well… in an ideal world we would have a standarized (and obviously secure) API that (nearly) all banks use. Or maybe even a few per region or so.
Of course, we don't. So apparently #fintech 's grew, which is their whole job to handle this (and maybe legal/complaint stuff).
In the #EU we have regulation (#PSD2) which then allows such fintechs access to bank APIs and maybe this is somewhat standardized (?), but yet again… end-customers cannot access that?
@lwinkler @kuketzblog Hier ein auf der technischen und rechtlichen Seite relevanter Beitrag zu dem Thema: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/226256/is-there-a-standard-for-otps-tied-to-transaction-details-that-has-been-implemen
Folglich waere wohl die Frage, ob/wann Banken #sqrl oder #webauthn fuer #psd2 entdecken.
Verbraucherschützer warnt: Klarna analysiert angeblich Kontoauszüge seiner Nutzer - Golem.de
rant, absichtlich falsch verstandene technik
@lwinkler @kuketzblog So ist auch meine Erfahrung, aber wenn man bei einer "neutralen" App nachweisen koennte, dass sie #psd2 auch erfuellt, kaemen solche Banken vielleicht eher in Erklaerungsnot.
Knackpunkt koennte Art. 97 Abs. 2 der EU-Richtlinie 2015/2366 (ugs. #psd2) sein, die verlangt, dass das Authentifizierungselement dynamisch mit dem Betrag und dem Zahlungempfaenger verknuepft ist. Damit faellt Aegis Authenticator wahrscheinlich raus.
@kuketzblog Gibt es empfehlenswerte (idealerweise quelloffene) Authenticator-Apps, die als #psd2 Authentifizierungsfaktor zulaessig sind?
@jalogisch Leider kann es (MoneyMoney) bei N26 nicht ohne ein Abo für die #PSD2 Schnittstelle die Salden abrufen.
#Finanzguru ist nur fürs iPhone und nicht für MacOS, oder?
@GrapheneOS +9001%
The sheer amount of liabilities if not legal through #GDPR & #BDSG, but indirectly through.mandated #standards like #PCIDSS & #PSD2 are the reason one should avoid storing them at all costs!
Does anyone know of a German bank that provides a #BankingApp for various #Linux operating systems, e.g. via #flatpak? Alternatively, I would also be interested in a generic banking app that connects to #PSD2 interfaces, including payment initiation - which can be installed via flatpak :-)
I'd like to switch productively from #Android to a #PureOS or #postmarketOS, I'm fed up with Google's crap.
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1572325#post1572325# #PSD2 : Yea I have been using a #JP1 with #AndroidRuntime but will it be future proof ? to support "forced intrusive apps" from banks , state etc ? @cyberlyra
Die #DB hasst ihre Kunden zunehmend und nennt den erzwungenen Vollzugriff aufs Bankkonto auch noch "Openbanking". Das ist nicht die Art von "open" wie sie sein sollte. Leider sind solche namenlosen Zecken im Business durch die #psd2 geadelt worden, jetzt sieht man, wohin das führt.
Buchung eines Tickets wird jetzt zuverlässig verhindert, habe das > 30 min. versucht, danach kommt leider nichts oder maximal Fehlermeldungen. eID wäre ja OK zur Prüfung der Identität, Kontoverlauf nicht
#dbnavigator