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I was around when Netscape launched the Mozilla project, and how they (and later AOL) tried to keep the Netscape suite alive by adding more and more bloated crapware to it. No body wanted any of it, so no one used it, and Netscape Navigator was blown away when Firefox arrived on the scene.

Cut to today and looking at OMG's news about the latest FF 142 release it 100% feels like Mozilla corp is pulling the exact same shit moves Netscape/AOL was 20 years ago. No one wants topic-based new tab page recommended stories. No one wants AI generated tab groups. No one wants to buy a VPN service from their browser vendor. All this crap is getting piled into FF by a dying vendor desperate to turn a buck, but all it is doing is driving people away.

Honestly, I don't know what Mozilla could do now to fix the problem (maybe not have incorporated and try to run the project like a for-profit company in the first place perhaps?), but maybe the solution is in fact a full community fork, like Libreoffice, or, like oh yeah OG Mozilla.

Or maybe (and this is what I'm hoping) Servo is to Mozilla today what Mozilla originally was to Netscape all those years ago - a soon--to-be successful community-run browser project cast off by a dying browser company. A plucky alternative to the incumbent monopoly's rapidly stagnating browser, IE. Err, I mean Chrome.

Here's hoping! Or even better, go contribute! servo.org/

Servo logo
ServoServo aims to empower developers with a lightweight, high-performance alternative for embedding web technologies in applications.Servo is a web rendering engine written in Rust, with WebGL and WebGPU support, and adaptable to desktop, mobile, and embedded applications.

> At the moment, #Servo is far from ready to be a daily driver #browser engine. Tons of websites’ rendering is broken and some crash the browser altogether.

Crash it? Wasn't #Rust supposed to fix that? I guess it's the interface with C libs like libpong, lijpeg and others? Does anyone know?

osnews.com/story/142940/i-trie

www.osnews.com“I tried Servo, the undercover web browser engine made with Rust” – OSnews
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FOSS NEWS

Mastodon (official) mobile apps and mastodon.social, mastodon.online web UI will include easily dismissable donation banner:
news.itsfoss.com/mastodon-in-a
(Some people often get mad if a project asks for donation within its software UI, but I think volunteer devs also deserve to get some payment for their work, it's fair to include a donation notice, if it doesn't annoy users with its placement.)

Brave and AdGuard will block Microsoft Recall:
brave.com/privacy-updates/35-b
alternativeto.net/news/2025/7/

Bluesky introduces age verification (using payment cards, ID scans, or face scans) for accessing adult content and direct messaging, and content controls for UK users:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/7/
(Yeah we're heading into a dystopian future, where you can't use social media without giving up sensitive information... Or can't send messages because a small portion of predators also use that feature... It shouldn't be the responsibility of governments and social media platforms to protect children, it's the parents' task to protect their children. If governments would really care about protecting children, they would rather push campaigns targeted towards parents to raise awareness of the importance of paying attention what their child is doing online. But nah, this "protect children" thing is only pushed for emotional manipulation, so that the governments can cover their arse, while building surveillance infrastructure.)

(more FOSS news in comment)

It's FOSS News · Mastodon Wants Funding and Won't Mind Nudging You for DonationThis small change could help support Mastodon.
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FOSS NEWS

Firefox 141 will include WebGPU support, Windows-only for now, with plans to extend it to Linux and macOS:
news.itsfoss.com/firefox-webgp
(Mozilla treating Linux as a second-class citizen? Another reason for distros to ditch it lol)

Servo monthly status update: work towards supporting incremental layout handling, support for viewport meta tags, scroll events in the DOM, barebones IndexedDB support, and more:
phoronix.com/news/Servo-June-2

Blender 4.5 LTS released with stable Vulkan backend, pen tablet tilt support, horizontal scrolling support in the UI, region resize highlighting, support for dropping a tree view item after the last element, a new operator to take a screenshot within Blender for an asset preview, a new shader node to control volume coefficients, etc.:
9to5linux.com/blender-4-5-lts-

VirtualBox 7.1.12 released with improved support for Linux kernel 6.16, bug fixes:
9to5linux.com/virtualbox-7-1-1

Organic Map July update released with updated OpenStreetMap data, better Arabic search, map display now highlights campsites, resort areas, and industrial zones, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/7/

LibreOffice merged built-in support for Bitcoin, will probably by available in 26.2 next year:
phoronix.com/news/LibreOffice-

Wireshark 4.4.8 released with updated protocol support, bug fixes:
9to5linux.com/wireshark-4-4-8-

Calibre 8.7 released with support for generating page number files (APNX) on 2024 and newer MTP-based Kindle devices, ability to ignore “et al.” suffix on author names when finding similar e-books by author, bug fixes and improvements:
9to5linux.com/calibre-8-7-adds

Haiku monthly recap: Wifi driver replaced, work on HiDPI scaling, more robust error handling for the FAT file system driver, etc.:
phoronix.com/news/Haiku-OS-Jun

It's FOSS News · Firefox Catches Up to Chrome With the Addition of This Feature But Leaves Linux Out (for now)Mozilla did a very good job with this. Now, bring it to Linux as well, please.

🚀 Servo's #performance "tuning" is like rearranging chairs on the Titanic of #web #engines. 🎻 But hey, at least it now boasts a "screen reader" for those who want to read the fine print on how much further it has to go. 😂 #Phoronix shines on with another riveting #sleep #aid. 💤
phoronix.com/news/Servo-June-2 #Servo #Tuning #Screen #Reader #HackerNews #ngated

www.phoronix.comServo Web Engine Further Tuning Performance, Screen Reader & Other New Features
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"#JamieZawinski has #repeatedly said:

Now hear me out, but What If…? #browser #development was in the hands of some kind of #nonprofit #organization?

In my #humble but #correct #opinion, #Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

#Building THE #reference #implementation #WebBrowser and
Being a jugular-#snapping #attack #dog on #standards #committees.
There is no 3."
"Perhaps this is the only #viable #resolution."

"#Mozilla, for all its many #failings, has #invented a lot of #amazing #tech, from #Rust to #Servo to the #leading #budget #phone #OS. It shouldn't be trying to #capitalize on this #stuff. Maybe 3encourage it to have semi-independent #spinoffs, such as #Thunderbird, and as #KaiOS ought to be, and as #Rust could have been."
"But #JamieZawinski has the only #clear #vision and #solution we've seen yet. Perhaps he's #right, and #Mozilla #should be a #nonprofit, #working to #fund the one #independent, non-#vendor-driven, #standardscompliant #browserEngine."

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"#Mozilla can press on with independent subprojects such as #Thunderbird owners #MZLA #Technologies #Corporation. The popular #Electron #framework is based on #Chromium. It's too late to change that, even if maybe #Servo may one day offer an #alternative. But if #Thunderbird sucked in #Libpurple, it wouldn't matter if #Slack and #Teams and so on used #Electron, as Thunderbird could talk to the servers directly."
"But pointing at what we'd like to see is attempting to #treat the #symptoms and not the #disease. Is there a way to #encourage Mozilla to be an #organized, #focused, #professional #business, with #eyes keenly set on a clearly defined #goal? Perhaps that's the wrong #question. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal at all. For all that the #Linux business is #huge, no #company #develops the #kernel. They all #cooperate on it. The #Linux #Foundation #funds it, but doesn't really #guide it."
"One #observer has been #spectating and #commentating on Mozilla since before it was a foundation – one of its original co-#developers, #JamieZawinksi. He has been accurately #cataloging Mozilla's #failings for #years."

We deserve a web browser that's part of and owned by the public commons.

To be frank, I believe we deserve, need, and could easily fund two: Firefox and Servo/Verso.

The "Open Web" does not exist without a truly open browser. Most digital sovereignty initiatives collapse without one.

Mozilla is not the organizational entity to lead this.

theregister.com/2025/07/08/fir

The Register · Firefox is fine. The people running it are notBy Liam Proven
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FOSS NEWS

Mozilla discontinues Fakespot Deep Fake Detector:
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/06/mozill

Organic Maps gets option to save planned routes and other improvements:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

CoMaps 2025.06.10 is now available on F-Droid with new UI and updated maps:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

Proton Mail and Calendar gets option for adding notes when replying to event invitations:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

ONLYOFFICE 9.0 released with new themes, redesigned start screen, new Diagram Viewer tool, new supported formats (Markdown, OpenDocument Graphics, Excel binary workbook files) etc.:
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/06/onlyof

Immich 1.135 released with iOS home screen widgets, Google Cast support and album descriptions in mobile apps, opt-in Google Cast integration and new onboarding flow on web, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

ReactOS gets better support for fullscreen programs:
phoronix.com/news/ReactOS-Full

Calibre 8.5 released with improved Kobo driver, new button in the Manage Data Files dialog to cancel remaining e-books when managing multiple ones, etc.:
9to5linux.com/calibre-8-5-open

Zed gets new multi-language debugger tool, supporting Rust, Go, Python, JavaScript and C/C++:
news.itsfoss.com/zed-debugger-

Git 2.50 released with multi-pack reachability, improved multiple cruft packs, ORT merge engine, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

Servo gets animated GIF support, support for SVG images via HTML "img" tag, input type="color" support, better layout and CSS support, etc.:
phoronix.com/news/Servo-May-20

Zen Browser 1.13b released with spaces for tabs instead of workspaces, updated Firefox base, Google Safe Browsing support:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

OMG! Ubuntu · Mozilla Axes its AI-Generated Text Detector Add-On - OMG! UbuntuMozilla is axing another project that felt a perfect fit for a company founded on the idea of making the web better for everyone. Next week, on June 26