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Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKI somewhat reluctantly installed paid version of <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> Go app on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> (it was on discount, probably as TomTom are on the ropes) I've got a few long drives coming up and <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSM</a> lacks warnings of the average speed cameras on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/A12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#A12</a> in <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Essex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Essex</a> (alas, I have 0 idea how to accurately add them or if you could even get the data from <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/NationalHighways" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NationalHighways</a> (presumably it is possible as TomTom has them) It works fairly well (other than missing route bar on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> which TomTom and Google are struggling to fix) and does pick up my POIs from existing Tomtom cloud.I'm not sure of the future of the company, they laid off loads of their staff (probably where <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a>, also based in NL is getting their devs from) and their website and update servers barely work. <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/satnav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#satnav</a>

proedieHey, who wants to go to the <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/cinema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cinema</a> in <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/Hanover" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hanover</a>? If you think that sounds like a good idea, don’t use a <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/map" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#map</a> app that automatically scrapes <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/Wikipedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wikipedia</a> for locations to find one – unless you’re fine with watching a film on <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/AppleTV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppleTV</a> instead. Because where once was the historic cinema Palast Theater is now an <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/AppleStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppleStore</a>. 🤦(The cinema shut down before <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> even existed, so don’t blame them!)<a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/mapping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mapping</a> <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/magicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicEarth</a> <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/hannover" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hannover</a> <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#germany</a>

Thomas<a href="https://det.social/users/jskeletti" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jskeletti</a> <blockquote>CoMaps ist völlig offline und läuft immer.</blockquote> Auch <a href="https://anonsys.net/search?tag=MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> lässt sich vollkommen offline betreiben.

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKI ditched <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> (which appears to be also losing features with the paid app!) for <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OsmAnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OsmAnd</a> Plus Pro.Earlier in the year I got a Google Play gift card for my birthday. I don't play mobile games so it seemed worth getting, especially as its currently the same price as the paid <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> app)the app (which I'd used before for recording <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GPX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GPX</a> tracks of long drives on a separate device) has way more features *and* an active <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> community with repos, issue tracker etc.Speed monitoring and warnings work on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> (with more configurable options). The main feature it lacks is live traffic, but not that big a loss as there's 0 way of avoiding jams at peak time in my region anyway due to limited routes in and out of it!<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/satnav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#satnav</a>

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKInterestingly <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> pushed an update a few days ago on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> but still didn't ask for their 0,99€ (nor did they add or remove any features, and they don't even publish release notes).Worryingly though on Reddit folk with new IOS app (subscription) are claiming speed warnings have disappeared which would be a big feature loss..There's a hard limit to how much they can enshittify though as users would just go to TomTom (either the free Amigo app or the paid one which is about 14-19€ per year (I'd mistakenly thought it was per *month*) but even the paid app lacks features (blaming Android Auto rules which doesn't seem to be 100% true)Hopefully the MagicEarth devs realise this, given their HQ is in NL I'd expect a fair few of them could be ex TomTom staff..

Thomas<a href="https://fedi.at/users/burkay" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@burkay</a> Ich empfehle als Alternative zu Google Maps <a href="https://anonsys.net/search?tag=MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a>. <a href="https://www.magicearth.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">magicearth.com/</a>

Michael WeinholdSo, maps and navigation app Magic Earth bought Atari or what?!Will I be able to play E.T. if I zoom in really reeeeaaaally close to that place in New Mexico?<a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Logo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Logo</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/ReDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ReDesign</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/LogoDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LogoDesign</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Branding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Branding</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Atari" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Atari</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/VideoGames" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VideoGames</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Maps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Maps</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStore</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Navigation</a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/ET" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ET</a>

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKIt seems <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> are at least listening to the user community and holding off on the switch to a paid app for <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> until they can find some payment method that doesn't require Google service (I hope this doesn't mean that development stalls until they can get their revenue stream)IMO if fhey are charging for it the app they should have a full website portal with payment facility *and* access to support with a ticketing system and facility to add crowdsourced map updates (rather than expecting endusers to work out which is <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OSM</a> and which is <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Foursquare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Foursquare</a> or other third parties), and not relying just on email or worse, Reddit) - basically all that <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> *used* to have not that long ago but abandoned...<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/maps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maps</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a>

Matthieu Roman 🍉 ⏚<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@vfrmedia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@vfrmedia</a> Recently I found many double entries on <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> maps. Devs told me it's because both OSM data and their third party data are showing up. Really disappointing because in my hometown's map I see old restaurants appear that have closed for years, places that have the wrong location... It seems <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> is going the wrong way. Now that you have to pay for using it, I expect a much better accuracy. But as you say, <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> still lacks basic features (for example a choice between the fastest and the shortest route).

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKSo far <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> seems least worst of the <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navi</a> apps to work with <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> - although devs appear very cagey about exactly which version(s) of <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OpenStreetMap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenStreetMap</a> they are using, and where they are getting their shop / business data from which makes correcting it a bit harder - I've still not heard anything about the spelling mistake I reported (other than an auto acknowledgement) and as its closed source they only have email as a contact method.It seems to be OSM based but with proprietary datasets tacked on and "crumbs from the table" of their commercial projects (providing navi solutions to transport networks in Germany)Even so its a better app than many paid ones, especially after <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/TomTom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TomTom</a> has become increasingly enshittified, and <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> still lacks features..

Dirk<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention">@kuketzblog</a> Da ich mittlerweile wieder sehr viel mit Fahrrad unterwegs bin, bin ich wieder zu <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/Osmand" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Osmand</a> zurückgekehrt. Die Navigation mit <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#MagicEarth</a> taugt wirklich nur für Straßenverkehr, abseits davon wird es im besten Fall chaotisch. Viele Wege, über die seit über Jahrzehnte offizielle Fahrradrouten gehen, fehlen halt. Des Weiteren bleiben mir die Entwickler / Firma suspekt, mittlerweile ist die Webseite etwas informativer, aber nicht in den Belangen, dass ich mit denen eine Geschäftsbeziehung eingehen möchte.

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKAlas, <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CoMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoMaps</a> fell at the first hurdle in my test of <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Navi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Navi</a> software - it doesn't show <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/speed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#speed</a> limit nor <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/GNSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GNSS</a> speed on the screen on <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/AndroidAuto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AndroidAuto</a> - a big missing feature! <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/OrganicMaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OrganicMaps</a> (which it is forked from) doesn't have this either, there's an open issue for it but 0 reply / acknowledgement from the devs..(Curiously the speeds are shown if you use the device standalone, and other Android Auto apps do have this display so its not a Google UI restriction..)So I will stick to <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> for the moment..

Hopfi<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@dirksche" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dirksche</a> ich habe schon eine Antwort erhalten, habe ich ehrlich gesagt nicht so wirklich mit gerechnet, vor allem nicht innerhalb weniger Tage.Auszug:Wir möchten Ihnen versichern, dass unser Team aktiv an der Einführung von alternativen Zahlungsoptionen arbeitet, die es Ihnen ermöglichen, direkt zu abonnieren, ohne dass Sie sich bei Google oder Apple anmelden müssen. Dies wird Nutzern mit angepassten ROMs oder de-gegoogelten Geräten ermöglichen, weiterhin Magic Earth zu nutzen, ohne ihre Privatsphäre zu gefährden, nachdem sie einen Link zu einer APK-Datei erhalten haben.Cool! Und danke <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a>

das nächste bitte<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Antwort von <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a>: ”Hello,Thank you for reaching out and for sharing your concerns. We completely understand your frustration regarding the current requirement to use a Google or Apple account for subscriptions. You're absolutely right, privacy is one of the core values Magic Earth stands for, and we truly appreciate users like you who are committed to maintaining control over your digital footprint. We want to assure you that our team is actively working on introducing alternative payment options that will allow you to subscribe directly without needing to sign in with Google or Apple. This will enable users with custom ROMs or de-Googled devices to continue using Magic Earth without compromising their privacy, after receiving a link to an APK file....

tschenkel<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Dear Magic Earth team,I am a very happy user of your navigation software and fully support your decision to go for a paid only approach. In fact, I think the price is more than fair.However, another aspect of the announced system will make it impossible to continue using it. And that is the requirement to pay using the Google Store.Your product is one of those used by the rising population of de-googled Android users. In fact, I have not met anyone using it who is not using it to avoid Google.Having to install Google Services on the phone is a price many of your customers, me included, won't be able or willing to pay.Please introduce another payment option by credit card, so I can continue to use and recommend your product.Thank you very much.Best wishes,....<a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/degoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#degoogle</a>

das nächste bitte<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Hab soeben über das Kontaktformular auf <a href="https://www.magicearth.com/contact" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.magicearth.com/contact</a> die Bitte um eine alternative Bezahlmöglichkeit für die bald anfallenden 99 cent für die Nutzung von <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> hinterlassen. Je mehr schreiben umso eher kann was passieren.Anmerkung: Favorisieren ist super. Teilen noch besser 😉

fly-Ing<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> Ja, schade eigentlich - anscheinend scheint es ein größerer Aufwand zu sein, einen eigenen Webshop aufzusetzen und google ist halt einfach der bequemere Weg. Und leider sind schon einige (gute) Karten- und Navigationsapps eingegangen. Weil viele bis nahezu alle google maps nutzen. <a href="https://mastodon.bachgau.social/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bachgau.social/tags/navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navigation</a>

Kuketz-Blog 🛡Magic Earth wird künftig kostenpflichtig – grundsätzlich nachvollziehbar. Problematisch wird’s allerdings für Nutzer ohne Google-Dienste: »You can manage or cancel your subscription through the App Store (iOS) or Google Play Store (Android) at any time.« Tja. 🙄<a href="https://www.magicearth.com/pricing" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.magicearth.com/pricing</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/gps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gps</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/navigation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#navigation</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#android</a> /kuk

HopfiHäää? <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/magicearth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magicearth</a> kostet jetzt jährlich 99 cent? Gerade im <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/iode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iode</a> blog gelesen. <a href="https://blog.iode.tech/de/iodeos-juli-vorschau-grosse-upgrades-fur-smart-cars-esims-und-app-kompatibilitat/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.iode.tech/de/iodeos-juli-vorschau-grosse-upgrades-fur-smart-cars-esims-und-app-kompatibilitat/</a>Also das mit den 99 cent steht eher hier: <a href="https://www.magicearth.com/pricing" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.magicearth.com/pricing</a>Finde ich voll okay, was mich aber stört ist das ich das abo wohl über den <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/playstore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#playstore</a> abschließen muss und das ist doof. Wenn das nicht anders geht muss ich wohl wechseln, wäre schade.

ThomasFür Augsburg fehlen bei der Navigation mit mit <a href="https://anonsys.net/search?tag=MagicEarth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MagicEarth</a> mit dem öffentlichen Nahverkehr generell die Tram Bahnen in Augsburg. Das führt dazu dass bei der Navigation in ME dann entweder nur eine Route zu Fuß oder mit dem Bus angezeigt wird.

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