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Erik van Straten

@rooskatoen : probably news like this is considered "too complicated" for "ordinary people".

Or the journalists themselves do not understand it, and fear making errors. Indeed, often when they *do* occasionally report on such topics, often their stories are incomplete, sensational and/or plain wrong.

ICT is treated like "rocket science"; only nerds can understand it.

IMO this is very wrong. Way too few people are interested in ICT fundamentals, and why things are the way they are. All of us depend on it more every day. This makes us unnecessarily vulnerable.

While you don't have to know where the pistons are located in your car's combustion engine, you *do* need to learn to drive a car and know *all* of the traffic rules that apply.

Similarly, most people don't have to be able to write computer programs or implement websites, but their basic knowledge of ICT is insufficient. Computer and software manufacturers have done their extreme best to make everything *look* simple. It's a trick, if not a trap.

Too few people are aware that soon we'll be confronted with EHDS (European Health Data Space) and will be seduced into using EDIW/EUDIW (European Digital Identity Wallet). They will only tell you about the advantages, and most people will buy that. Like they did when internet banking was introduced.

Like ChatControl (and a couple of years ago, Covid apps), such technologies will severely impact our lives. They were pushed by lobbyists (payed by #BigTechIsEvil with endless money) to noob politicians. No fundamental democratic discussion, considering all advantages AND disadvantages, takes place.

B.T.W. such news *is* covered, but on "nerd"-sites only, like security.nl and tweakers.net.

Unfortunately, for unseasoned readers, on those sites it is hard to distinguish between noise and news that really matters.

On Mastodon, following the right people may help you to gain insight.

@jbz

Screenshot from the top of https://tweakers.net/nieuws/233008/tweede-kamer-wil-unaniem-dat-sidn-nl-domeininfrastructuur-niet-naar-aws-overzet.html Text is in Dutch: Tweede Kamer wil unaniem dat SIDN .nl-domeininfrastructuur niet naar AWS overzet Door Tijs Hofmans | Nieuwscoördinator 19-03-2025 11:10 238 reacties submitter: Lucas De Nederlandse Tweede Kamer is unaniem akkoord gegaan met een motie om de infrastructuur rondom het .nl-domein in Nederland te blijven houden. Wat de gevolgen van die stemming zijn, is nog niet duidelijk, maar de uitslag geeft een stevig signaal af. [...]
#EHDS#EDIW#ChatControl
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Erik van Straten

@AlfredJH : als een minister van Justitie een kamermeerderheid tegen ChatControl naast zich neer blijft leggen, dan is er al flink aan het fundament van de rechtsstaat gezaagd.

En ze kunnen jou en mij (als genocide-verafschuwers) altijd nog van (de rubberen definitie van) antisemitisme beschuldigen.

Een Koran verbranden moet kunnen, maar (uit universiteitleiden.nl/in-de-me):

"De rechter heeft bepaald dat het vervangen van de davidster op een Israëlische vlag met een kakkerlak onder antisemitisme en groepsbelediging valt. Het gaat in dat geval niet meer over de staat Israël, maar over het symbool voor het Jodendom en dehumanisering."

Ook hier krijgen slachtoffers zelden gelijk: security.nl/search?origin=fron.

@gvenema

Universiteit LeidenNieuwe maatregelen om antisemitisme terug te dringenSinds de oorlog in Gaza neemt antisemitisme in Nederland toe. Het kabinet presenteerde vorige week maatregelen om deze opkomst terug te dringen. Marloes van Noorloos, Universitair hoofddocent straf- en strafprocesrecht, gaf bij EenVandaag uitleg over de strafbaarheid van antisemitisme.
#NemoTenetur#ChatControl#VrijheidVanSelectieveMeningsUiting
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Patrick Breyer

🇬🇧EU governments to make voluntary 1.0 permanent. Majority wants mandatory 2.0 in addition.

New German government (conservatives-socialists) reserves revision of country's previous position, asks about voluntary scanning of end-to-end encrypted communications and opposes decline in voluntary scanning (foreseeable result of Meta rolling out encryption).

Next meeting: 8 April.

Leaked meeting record (in German): netzpolitik.org/2025/internes-

netzpolitik.org · Internes Protokoll: EU-Staaten kommen bei Chatkontrolle nicht weiterDie EU-Staaten können sich weiterhin nicht auf eine gemeinsame Position zur Chatkontrolle einigen. Kompromissvorschläge aus Polen finden ebenfalls keine Mehrheit. Die Zukunft des EU-Gesetzes entscheidet sich möglicherweise in Deutschland. Wir veröffentlichen das eingestufte Verhandlungsprotokoll.
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Mix Mistress Alice💄

"Governments around the world have frequently proposed technical mechanisms to bypass encryption and allow access to messages for investigations. Cryptographers and technologists have repeatedly and definitively warned, though, that any backdoor created to access end-to-end encrypted communications could be exploited by hackers or authoritarian governments, compromising everyone’s safety. Additionally, it is likely that criminals would find ways to continue to use self-made encryption tools to conceal their messages, meaning that backdoors in mainstream products would succeed at undermining protections for the public without eliminating its use by bad actors."—Matt Burgess

A New Era of Attacks on Encryption Is Starting to Heat Up >

wired.com/story/a-new-era-of-a

#privacy #encryption #PrivacyRights #cryptography #GDPR vs #ChatControl #backdoor #authoritarianism #technocracy #EU

WIRED · A New Era of Attacks on Encryption Is Starting to Heat UpBy Matt Burgess
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Konstantin Macher

Your mass surveillance agenda is in a bad place if even liberal economic think tanks are calling it out.

„Police authorities and governments are calling for digital backdoors for investigative purposes - and the EU Commission is listening. The Centre for European Policy (cep) warns against a weakening of digital #encryption. The damage to cyber security, fundamental rights and trust in digital infrastructures would be enormous.“

cep.eu/eu-topics/details/secur
#GoingDark #ChatControl #DataRetention

Centrum für europäische Politik: cep.euSecurity and Trust: An Unsolvable Digital Dilemma? | cep - Centre for European Policy Network
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Fox Trenton 🎱

Swedish government wants to get access to your encrypted messaging communication.
Exactly how are they thinking of doing that?
I am no tech specialist, even I have been online since early 1990s. I may very well miss something or be ignorant of some aspects, but..

OK, let's say Swedish government wants backdoors to messaging apps.
Signal refuses and leaves Sweden.
So, is the Swedish government going to demand that of everyone messaging app?
Signal, WhatsApp, etc, they are centralised, so could perhaps work.

But what about smaller, "unknown", decentralised messaging services? Like SimpleX? How are you going to get them to comply?

Or XMPP/Jabber with OMEMO encryption? That is a not an app, not even a messaging service, but a protocol, similar to email.
Do you think every developer of an XMPP app is going to comply? That is, if you are even capable of finding them? And that goes for the XMPP servers, as well. "Anyone" can set up an encrypted XMPP server.

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#signal#MessagingSecurity#chatcontrol
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Konstellationen

Ser lovande ut! Polen lägger fram ett alternativt förslag till Chat Control där tvånget på masskanning är borttaget. @edri analyserar förslaget

"[...] Poland has proposed to fully delete ‘Detection Orders’.

Detection Orders are the part of the original European Commission ‘Chat Control’ proposal that would have forced providers like Signal and WhatsApp to scan the messages of all users."

edri.org/our-work/poland-searc

European Digital Rights (EDRi)Poland searches for silver bullet for CSA Regulation - European Digital Rights (EDRi)Read EDRi's analysis of the Polish Council Presidency attempts to break the deadlock on the controversial Chat Control proposal.
#ChatControl
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Parti Pirate

🎤 [Entretien] Libertés et souveraineté numériques, #ChatControl, #Narcotrafic, droit à l’intégrité numérique, accès aux services publics, vidéosurveillance, …
Retrouvez notre porte-parole @czorn invitée du podcast @rdgp « Rien De Grave Patron » de @benjaminbellamy et @aeris ! 💻 ✨

🔗 Écoutez l’épisode ici : rdgp.fr/@rdgp/episodes/entreti

RdGP (Rien de Grave Patron !) · [Entretien] Comment protéger nos Libertés numériques, avec Caroline Zorn et le Parti PirateDans cet épisode, Caroline Zorn, porte-parole et tête de liste du Parti Pirate aux européennes et élue à Strasbourg, revient sur les menaces qui pèsent sur nos libertés numériques, de la loi “Narcotrafic” au Chat Control, en passant par la vidéosurveillance algorithmique et le techno-solutionnisme sécuritaire. Ensemble, nous explorons aussi la nécessité d’une souveraineté numérique européenne, la défense d’un Internet libre et les moyens concrets de garantir un droit à l’intégrité numérique pour tous. Liens : Parti Pirate The Pirate Bay (Wikipedia) Hadopi (Wikipedia) “Proposition de loi visant à sortir la France du piège du narcotrafic” (Assemblée nationale) “Proposition de loi visant à sortir la France du piège du narcotrafic” (Sénat) Chat Control (Parti Pirate) Déclaration pour le droit à l’intégrité numérique des personnes et la préservation de l’accès aux services publics (Ville et Eurométropole de Strasbourg) Intégrité numérique (Wikipedia) Souveraineté numérique (Wikipedia)
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