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Marcus Rohrmoser 🌻Hi <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@isotopp" class="u-url mention">@isotopp</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@StefanMuenz" class="u-url mention">@StefanMuenz</a>, nichts gegen relationale <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/Algebra" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Algebra</a> für <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/Datamining" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Datamining</a> und so. Aber <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#maildir</a> kann schon auch was, lock-free, ist auch nett: <a href="https://codeberg.org/jugendhacktlab.qdrei.info/gaestebuch/src/branch/ma/html/msg-add.cgi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://codeberg.org/jugendhacktlab.qdrei.info/gaestebuch/src/branch/ma/html/msg-add.cgi</a>

Yann Büchau :nixos:For quite some time I have sporadically run <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/mbsync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mbsync</a> configured to pull several IMAP accounts and it indeed brings in emails. BUT: - <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maildir</a> format is weird. What's with the cur/new/tmp structure? - why the heck is the hostname in the filenames? - Feels like it doesn't like to be migrated and be continued from somewhere else. - two-way sync seems to be kinda broken (not needed anyway) - Holy cow is the configuration unnecessarily verbose and complicated 🤯 (should be well <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/nix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nix</a>-able though)

Timo GeuschAny recommendations for a tool that can detect duplicate emails either in a <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/MailDir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MailDir</a> or on an <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#imap</a> server and ideally remove them? “Someone” made a boo-boo when trying to get to the bottom of an mbsync and now has several Maildirs full of email in quadruplicate.<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfHosted</a>

LorenAmelang<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jon</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@Vivaldi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Vivaldi</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Maildir</a> was designed by Daniel J. Bernstein circa 1995. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir</a>I've used it since 2010 when Eudora sort of faded away. There were tools to migrate to Maildir... I now have about 20,000 messages organized into a hierarchy of folders. <a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/maildir-thunderbird" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/maildir-thunderbird</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a> maildir is "disabled by default because there are still many bugs. It is not 100% ready for users." For one, many of the file names begin with long opaque numbers rather than the mail Subject. But at least I can search content with any file search app, and move messages to my choice of folders and backup strategies. While still having the whole message history backed up in a single ~100MB SQLite3 db file. This seems to have lost attention: <a href="https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/67416/import-for-maildir-format" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/67416/import-for-maildir-format</a>No mention of maildir: <a href="https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/71122/import-and-export-of-mail-messages" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/71122/import-and-export-of-mail-messages</a>Current discussion: <a href="https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/94826/local-email-folder" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/94826/local-email-folder</a>"Mails in <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/M3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#M3</a> are not really moved, they change only the view. You cant add folders to such an account. You can use custom folders in IMAP accounts but the idea behind M3 is not to use folders at all."Doesn't seem very compatible...

Bjarni |grep -i techAlright!I think I've got code which generates numeric IDs for messages within a Maildir or Mbox, where the happy path is a relatively efficient direct-ish lookup of the target message, but enough info is encoded in the ID to recover and do the right thing if the message has moved, changed slightly or been replaced by an imposter.Along with hooks to notify the calling code that IDs have become inefficient and a re-indexing might be warranted.I can sleep now.<a href="https://floss.social/tags/moggie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#moggie</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#email</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maildir</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/mbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mbox</a>

Fabian N. T.Really happy that <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a> seems to have a future. But why is in version 102 still <a href="https://floss.social/tags/mbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mbox</a> the default storage format and not <a href="https://floss.social/tags/maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maildir</a>? <a href="https://floss.social/tags/mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mozilla</a>

Phillip VuchetichIf I were to try using a text-based email client from <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> ports today, what are all the cool kids using? In the 90's I used <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/pine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pine</a> and <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/elm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#elm</a> because they were on the university's server. Since then, I've used primarily GUI and Webmail interfaces. It needs to switch between multiple <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/IMAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IMAP</a> sources as well as local <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maildir</a>. In this case, my goal is to try to use more keyboard-centric tools instead of mouse-centric tools for ergonomics.

blippI set up a new <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a> profile to use <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Maildir" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Maildir</a> as storage format for all my e-mail accounts. This plays along better with my automatic remote backup solution using <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/restic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#restic</a>. One newly received e-mail no longer leads to a backup of my entire 900 MB inbox. 😬<a href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/maildir-thunderbird" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/maildir-thunderbird</a>

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