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Jeremiah Lee<p>I still must use Google for some queries. Google is best for me at these kinds of queries:</p><p>• Finding products in online stores that ship to Sverige. I try to avoid buying from Amazon.</p><p>• Location-specific queries, like plant-based restaurants near me.</p><p>• English queries that only have answers in Svenska, like various government regulations.</p><p><a href="https://alpaca.gold/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a></p>
Jeremiah Lee<p>Concluding my experiment with Qwant as my default search engine after a little over a week.</p><p>I returned to DuckDuckGo as my default search engine.</p><p>In general, Qwant’s results seemed almost as relevant as DDG. </p><p>Qwant does not provide quick answers. Queries like “convert 1 USD to EUR”, “convert 200F to C”, and “time in CDT” should just give me an answer.</p><p>Qwant does not support !bangs. I use !npm !cargo !w daily.</p><p><a href="https://duckduckgo.com/bangs" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">duckduckgo.com/bangs</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://alpaca.gold/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a></p>
NGI Outreach Office<p>The NGI Forum 2025 marked a strategic shift for Europe’s internet future, from R&amp;D to deployment. Our wrap-up report is now live!</p><p>📌 Key takeaways:</p><p>🔹 Digital wallets = public infrastructure</p><p>🔹European Open Web Index is live and growing</p><p>🔹Open source needs public procurement reform</p><p>🔹Projects like Mastodon, Taler &amp; Decidim = scalable, sovereign solutions</p><p>📖 Read the report: <a href="https://ngi.eu/news/2025/06/27/ngi-forum-2025-marks-a-strategic-shift-from-next-generation-internet-toward-the-open-internet-stack/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ngi.eu/news/2025/06/27/ngi-for</span><span class="invisible">um-2025-marks-a-strategic-shift-from-next-generation-internet-toward-the-open-internet-stack/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/OpenInternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenInternet</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/Web4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Web4</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalCommons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalCommons</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NextGenerationInternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NextGenerationInternet</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGI</span></a></p>
Jeremiah Lee<p>I am experimenting with Qwant as my default search engine for a month after learning more about it at the EU NGI Forum last week.</p><p>Like DuckDuckGo, my default it replaces, Qwant uses a mix of Bing infrastructure and its own. Qwant is building its own EU-based web index and search engine in collaboration with Ecosia.</p><p><a href="https://www.eucloud.tech/eu-providers/search?ref=activitypub" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">eucloud.tech/eu-providers/sear</span><span class="invisible">ch?ref=activitypub</span></a></p><p><a href="https://alpaca.gold/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a></p>
Jeremiah Lee<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@wolfgang_oels" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wolfgang_oels</span></a></span> That’s impressive in such a short amount of time. What are the biggest challenges to increasing that percentage? Index size, results relevancy, results speed?</p><p>Is there an equivalent of Google Search Console or Bing Webmaster Tools for the new EUSP index yet?</p><p>What could <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://suma-ev.social/@openwebsearcheu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>openwebsearcheu</span></a></span> do to be more useful to EUSP’s efforts so they are not duplicated?</p><p><a href="https://alpaca.gold/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a></p>
Jeremiah Lee<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@wolfgang_oels" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>wolfgang_oels</span></a></span> Thanks. <a href="https://betterweb.qwant.com/en/2024/11/08/ecosia-and-qwant-join-forces-to-develop-european-search-index/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">betterweb.qwant.com/en/2024/11</span><span class="invisible">/08/ecosia-and-qwant-join-forces-to-develop-european-search-index/</span></a> also was useful.</p><p>Any update on progress made since November last year?</p><p>What percentage of FR or DE language searches today are handled by EUSP infrastructure without assistance from Google or Bing?</p><p>Does EUP use the indexing datasets produced by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://suma-ev.social/@openwebsearcheu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>openwebsearcheu</span></a></span>?</p><p><a href="https://alpaca.gold/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a></p>
testman<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.ngi.eu/@ngi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ngi@social.ngi.eu</span></a></span> <br>are recordings of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ngiforum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ngiforum25</span></a> also planned to be uploaded to NGI PeerTube, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://video.ngi.eu/accounts/ngi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ngi@video.ngi.eu</span></a></span> ?</p>
Özgür Kesim<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@opensouthcode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>opensouthcode</span></a></span> <br>You might be interested in the talk I just gave today, titled "Digital Freedom meets Digital Payments", at the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ngiforum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ngiforum25</span></a> in Brussels, about how <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/gnutaler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnutaler</span></a> can help increase funding of <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/floss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>floss</span></a>. My slides are here:<br><a href="https://www.kesim.org/ngi-forum-2025.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">kesim.org/ngi-forum-2025.pdf</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Özgür Kesim<p>I feel I should tell people that I used the editor <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/acme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>acme</span></a> from <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@robpike" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>robpike</span></a></span> to write my <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/latex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>latex</span></a> presentation about <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GNUTaler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNUTaler</span></a> at the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ngiforum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ngiforum25</span></a>. Good people, good software, and good stewards deserve recognition.</p>
Özgür Kesim<p>Excellent participation and and interaction during Q&amp;A of my talk about <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GNUTaler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNUTaler</span></a> at the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ngiforum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ngiforum25</span></a>, titled "Digital Freedom meets Digital Payments".<br>If you are interested, here are the slides: <a href="https://www.kesim.org/ngi-forum-2025.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">kesim.org/ngi-forum-2025.pdf</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/floss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>floss</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/taler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>taler</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ngi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ngi</span></a></p>
witchescauldron<p>"Open source licensing permits continued operation of the software with an EU provider."</p><p>That’s technically true, but in practice, how many such transitions actually happen? How many of these tools become hollowed-out ghost projects after the buyout? We need the EU to fund <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/4opens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>4opens</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> and commons-native projects directly, not startups chasing exit strategies.</p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NGIFORUM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIFORUM</span></a><br><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NGIFORUM2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIFORUM2025</span></a> <br><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NGIFORUM25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIFORUM25</span></a></p>
just small circles 🕊<p>I mentioned before that once you avoid calling people "Users" you start to see how weird and artificial doing so is.</p><p>&gt; "The NGI Forum 2025 will focus on the building of an Open Internet Stack as conducive to European digital sovereignty and users’ empowerment"</p><p>There are great sessions at <a href="https://social.coop/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a> but there's so much "user this, user that". Why not just say "people", isn't that who <a href="https://social.coop/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> serves?</p><p>People aren't users. "User" is a technical abstraction, that hampers us from seeing real humans.</p>
NGI Outreach Office<p>💳 Digital payments sovereignty at <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a>!</p><p>Özgür Kesim <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@oec" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>oec</span></a></span> presenting "Digital Freedom meets Digital Payments" - how Europeans maintain financial autonomy in digital economy 🇪🇺</p><p>Follow LIVE the session on the NGI website: <a href="https://ngi.eu/ngi-forum25/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">ngi.eu/ngi-forum25/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum2025</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/OpenInternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenInternet</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalCommons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalCommons</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/EuropeanInnovation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EuropeanInnovation</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum</span></a></p>
Matti Schneider<p>“Why do these companies use NGI-funded <a href="https://maly.io/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> solutions instead of a commercial service for software supply chain compliance and <a href="https://maly.io/tags/cybersecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybersecurity</span></a> options? Because the American providers are only doing best-effort. In 🇺🇸 you can buy your way out of cyber mistakes. In 🇪🇺 you’re liable for damages thanks to CRA, so the tools we provide for the <a href="https://maly.io/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> market are simply much better” at tracking provenance.<br><a href="https://maly.io/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a></p>
NGI Outreach Office<p>🔐 Software supply chain security at <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a>!</p><p>🎤 Philippe Ombredanne (AboutCode) on "Managing Your Software Supply Chain with NGI: Security, GenAI, and CRA compliance" 🇪🇺</p><p>Tackling pressing EU digital sovereignty challenge!</p><p>Follow LIVE the session on the NGI website: <a href="https://ngi.eu/ngi-forum25/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">ngi.eu/ngi-forum25/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum2025</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/OpenInternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenInternet</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalCommons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalCommons</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/EuropeanInnovation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EuropeanInnovation</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum</span></a></p>
hamish campbell<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://scholar.social/@nee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nee</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://maly.io/@MattiSG" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MattiSG</span></a></span> a post a little strong maybe, but someone has to say this <a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/getting-through-this-era-of-collapse-with-anything-human-left-intact/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/getting-thr</span><span class="invisible">ough-this-era-of-collapse-with-anything-human-left-intact/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NGIFORUM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIFORUM</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NGIFORUM2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIFORUM2025</span></a> <br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NGIFORUM25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIFORUM25</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a></p>
Hamish Campbell<p><strong>Getting through this era of collapse with anything human left intact</strong></p> <p>The discussions on sovereignty at #NGIForum2025 make me wonder: what year are we in? It’s as if we’re rebooting grassroots conversations we’ve had for decades – but without the mess, memory, or movement that gave them meaning in the first place.</p> <p>A breath of clarity came from @renchap, who said it plainly:</p> <p>We need to focus our efforts on funding and supporting public value network infrastructure… THAT CANNOT BE BOUGHT. 💪</p> <p>Absolutely. If that idea resonates with you, try starting […]</p> <p><a href="https://hamishcampbell.com/getting-through-this-era-of-collapse-with-anything-human-left-intact/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hamishcampbell.com/getting-thr</span><span class="invisible">ough-this-era-of-collapse-with-anything-human-left-intact/</span></a></p>
NGI Outreach Office<p>👥 Users FIRST at <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a>!<br>"Co-creating NGI building blocks with end-user at the centre" - designing EU <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalSovereignty</span></a> around actual user needs! 🎯</p><p>🎤 Andrés del Álamo Cienfuegos (@Cibervoluntarios) moderating user-centric experts:</p><p>Muttukrishnan Rajarajan (University of London)<br>Ruben Roex (Timelex)<br>Thanasis Papaioannou (National and Kapodistrian University of Athens)</p><p>Follow LIVE the session on the NGI website: <a href="https://ngi.eu/ngi-forum25/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">ngi.eu/ngi-forum25/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum2025</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/DigitalCommons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalCommons</span></a> <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></p>
Chrystalleni<p>I'm learning a lot at <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/ngiforum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ngiforum25</span></a> during which I keep getting distracted by the need to find what must be a powerfully (though preferably kindly) critical backchannel</p>
NGI Outreach Office<p>🚀 A powerful morning at DAY 2 of <a href="https://social.ngi.eu/tags/NGIForum25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NGIForum25</span></a> on building Europe-first web sovereignty:</p><p>Sara Garavelli (@CSC) opened with a call for search independence</p><p>MEP @alexandrageese (@europarl_en) highlighted policy drivers for Open Web infrastructure</p><p>Panels showcased practical applications (search, AI, sustainability)</p><p>Stefan Voigt (@Open Search Foundation) led insights on sovereign tech stacks</p><p>We’re now hearing closing reflections from Sara, Stefan, and Michael Granitzer.</p>