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Axel Rauschmayer

I asked an #ActivityPub question: “Posts and profiles—how to fix the disconnect between local and remote data?"
socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

SocialHub · Newbie question: posts & profiles – how to fix the disconnect between local and remote data?On Mastodon, the disconnect between local and remote data is currently one of its biggest weaknesses (especially compared to ATproto): Posts usually don’t show all replies. Like & boost counts also tend to be lower. Profiles only show subsets of followers and followees. And to see all posts, you have to go to the original server. Questions: Is there a fundamental way in which this can be solved? Or a series of measures? Or is it something we (mostly) have to put up with? Maybe a timestamp f...
Sebastian Lasse

@rauschma
moin Dr.,
we also got a book in German but read Evans first ;) socialmediafalle.de/

Profiles only show subsets of followers and followees.
- never noticed this (?)

And to see all posts, you have to go to the original server.
- this is a specific mastodon thing

The spec. says clearly that the Client fetches the outbox and how the outbox should respond w3.org/TR/activitypub/#outbox

What you describe with timestamps is basically what I do (deno kv watch / Preact Signal) …

Unfortunately mastodon got it's own API
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About „Posts usually don’t show all replies.“

Sorry, don't get it.
Whenever an inReplyTo lands in the Inbox, it goes to the replies Collection w3.org/TR/activitystreams-voca

Recently I saw one joking about the sentences to send replies to replies to the original, whyever.
Do you mean this?
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just btw, cause of your TS work, all the things which I described at Berlin FediDay are in TS, are you aware of @fedify ?

@evan

socialmediafalle.deIN DER SOCIAL MEDIA FALLE
Nov 22, 2024, 06:53 PM·Public·Web
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Axel Rauschmayer

@sl007 Thanks!
> Profiles only show subsets of followers and followees
If I visit my profile via mastodon.green, I see 244 followers (vs. 246 on fosstodon.org).

> Posts usually don’t show all replies.
Could indeed also be a Mastodon-only problem—soon to be fixed: github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/m

Good to hear that these things are not inherent flaws of ActivityPub!

Wasn’t aware of fedify.dev, thanks for the pointer!

GitHubFetch All Replies v2 - Service Edition by sneakers-the-rat · Pull Request #44 · NeuromatchAcademy/mastodonBy sneakers-the-rat
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Sebastian Lasse

@rauschma

ah, I see -
„subset“ probably mean that it is the cached version of your Profile and missing the recent ones (?)
This comes down to the question if Profiles / which "Actor pieces" should be cached.

Another issue here is e.g. the caching of Avatars, Amongst well established codes and codizes in Social Media, people might change their Avatar, e.g. react to recent events.
In that case I'd argue that sending constant Update Activities for the Profile is important.
But if we would do that each time if all the people follow Jan Böhmermann it gets pretty expensive.
Maybe doing it for each total/100 followers.
The hundreds get rounded like 2.2k then it matters less (?)

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Axel Rauschmayer

@sl007 Yes!

There are now 2 replies that mirror your thinking: socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

SocialHub · Newbie question: posts & profiles – how to fix the disconnect between local and remote data?On Mastodon, the disconnect between local and remote data is currently one of its biggest weaknesses (especially compared to ATproto): Posts usually don’t show all replies. Like & boost counts also tend to be lower. Profiles only show subsets of followers and followees. And to see all posts, you have to go to the original server. Questions: Is there a fundamental way in which this can be solved? Or a series of measures? Or is it something we (mostly) have to put up with? Maybe a timestamp f...
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